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We need to discuss the line between Fanart and OC art, and whether or not there are possible grey areas that are acceptable.
Not because there is some crazy influx of broken rules, but because the current rules may not be as clear and precise as they could be.

The major topic up for vote and discussion, is what should be allowed and not allowed in a group gallery dedicated to Original Characters when Fanart is involved?

So, what is an OC?

- It is an Original Character, in which the concept and design is completely your own. (characters you have purchased and have the complete rites to also apply).


Now for a hard question: Does this definition include Original Characters that are part of a Universe that is not your original concept?
And another: Is a piece of artwork that features said OC in, for example: the Harry Potter Universe, with say: Harry Potter, in the image; would this be acceptable since it does include an OC? Assuming you feel OCs that are created for a universe that isn't your own is an OC acceptable for the group's gallery.

It has been brought to my attention that many OC groups do not allow ANY art that contains fanart. Some may allow OCs that are created for a universe that isn't their own, so long as it does not contain any of the Canon characters, while others won't even allow those OCs at all, and stick to only OCs that you have designed a world/setting for, yourself.

For example: Do we allow someone's First Year Slytherin student who falls in love with Harry Potter during her stay at Hogwarts, into the group?

Is there room for a grey area? Where does the line get crossed if we allow these bits of Fanart?


Next up: Grey Area

If Fan Characters are allowed (OCs in someone else's universe), then what is and what isn't acceptable?

Here are some current suggestions to pull apart or take into account:

"If the artwork contains a Canon(fanart) character, like Harry Potter, it must also contain an original character that is more or equally represented in the piece."
- Something like this was allow you to post art of your Fan Character in a relationship with a Canon character, or in a group, etc...Provided the OC is still a major focus of the artwork.

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"They should not be a 1) blood or legal relative of, 2) girlfriend/boyfriend/waifu/husband of, 3) clone/reflection/evil twin of 4) anthropomorphication of 5) any other kind of variation of an existing canon character. They have to be their own person with their own personality, own backstory and not defined by their connections to existing canon chars.

In addition, there should be 6) no way to seriously mistake them for an existing canon character in the setting they are in. However, if they look like a character from another setting, that happens all the time on accident, so that's okay. (Provided they are not an obvious rip-off, naturally). That means no recolors of canon chars, or wearing the very same clothes/uniform, since that means the artist didn't go to the trouble of designing their own outfit."


Next: Where do things like "Gijinka" stand? Are these really Original Characters, even if you've designed new forms for them?

For example: Someone makes a human version of Pikachu. They designed an outfit and everything, but is it really an original character if it's still technically a pikachu?


What kind of restrictions should be placed on Art that contains unoriginal content?
Do we map out a series of rules for every situation we can think of?
How do we define whose OCs are legitimate?

This is the problem we are facing right now, so help would be extraordinarily wonderful. ^^


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:bulletred: Submit your join requests once only. Unless it has been stated in your Correspondence messages that it has expired, DO NOT send in the SAME request more than once.

Besides, sending in the same request more than once would only increase the number of stuff we have to approve and makes the approval of your join/submission slower.

You can only submit two images a week to this group. Make it count.
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Rules:
:bulletred: NO mature content is to be submitted to the group under any circumstances. We have children in the group.
:bulletred: Yaoi/Yuri art is only accepted under the premises that it is not mature in content.
:bulletred: Mild nudity of your characters can be posted, but if your character has their wang/lady-part on display, it will be declined without hesitation.
:bulletred: No extreme gore. Keep severed limbs and grotesque mutilation to yourself.
:bulletred: Abuse to each other or the staff will absolutely not be tolerated.
:bulletred: Please submit only your best works. You will now only be able to submit twice a week, so make it count. (If you submit to the wrong folder, ask nicely for it to be submitted and moved. Though it is at the discretion of the group staff whether they do or not).
:bulletred: Theft will have you instantly kicked from the group and you will also be reported to DA for the clear violation.
:bulletred: We have never accepted (consciously) sketch dumps in the past, we still won't now either. please take consideration in the art you submit to us as you only get to do it twice a week.
:bulletred: Adoptables are NOT allowed here. We're not about selling. However, if you have a piece of art you made of an adoptable that has been named, etc, then that is allowed.
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:iconpaige1444:
Paige1444 Featured By Owner May 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do you accept fan characters? Is it okay to submit something that is OCxCanon?
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RoseDragonfire Featured By Owner May 14, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That was literally a topic I talked about mere seconds ago, hehe! Yes. This group focuses on original characters, so if the image you'd like to submit contains an original character, it is still an artwork of an original character. The "No Fanart" rule was meant to imply art that was strictly fanart, and in no way original to the person posting it. That being said, we don't accept the loop hole of Fanart that contains unknowns in the background or something. Those are still not original characters, and not the focus of the image, lol! The OC must have more or equal representation in the artwork. ^^
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Penguinpyromaniac Featured By Owner Edited May 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Quoting from one of our journals: "Fanart of ANY series are NOT allowed. This group is an Original character group, not a fanbase, or any-kind-of-art group. Keep it to OCs ONLY."

In general, these kinds of OC groups do not look positively on fan characters. Sorry.
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Paige1444 Featured By Owner May 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ah I see, thanks
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bulgariansumo Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015
Is it possible to submit commission sheets?
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RoseDragonfire Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
We don't currently have a place for those, but we do have a journal we try our best to keep updated. I make it a featured announcement once a month typically.
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bulgariansumo Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015
Ah ok! :)
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DAZ-3D Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
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raymix1000 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  New member Hobbyist General Artist
I hope to meet lots of cool people here.
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AirheadedSowon Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
we're glad to have your art here!
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